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	<title>Comments on: Because the riders shouldn&#8217;t be allowed on the road, that&#8217;s why</title>
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	<description>candour is good</description>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. Corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Stickler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 01:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China may be a city? Talk about a buried lede!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China may be a city? Talk about a buried lede!</p>
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		<title>By: Otis Wildflower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otis Wildflower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What local government in their right mind wants the expenses and headaches of more dense residential zoning?

Except cities that have high residential property taxes, and they already have mass transit?

Much easier to tax service industries that require far fewer services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What local government in their right mind wants the expenses and headaches of more dense residential zoning?</p>
<p>Except cities that have high residential property taxes, and they already have mass transit?</p>
<p>Much easier to tax service industries that require far fewer services.</p>
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		<title>By: Soak Hinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soak Hinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell, down here in Alabamy, we ride &#039;lectric pogo sticks! I got one that will run about 90 on the hop, but she&#039;s hard to keep &#039;tween the ditch banks at that speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, down here in Alabamy, we ride &#8216;lectric pogo sticks! I got one that will run about 90 on the hop, but she&#8217;s hard to keep &#8216;tween the ditch banks at that speed.</p>
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		<title>By: triticale</title>
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		<dc:creator>triticale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 13:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, every automobile and tire manufacturer in the US conspired to do away with light rail by nefariously producing a transportation system which actually gets people wherever they want to go, thereby rendering inflexible capital-intensive rail systems obsolete and unprofitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, every automobile and tire manufacturer in the US conspired to do away with light rail by nefariously producing a transportation system which actually gets people wherever they want to go, thereby rendering inflexible capital-intensive rail systems obsolete and unprofitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jhn1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jhn1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 03:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, GM wasn&#039;t the only culprit. IIRC Firestone Tire had an even larger hand in it.
That said, very few suburban cities are tolerating even discussion of Mass Transit-useable development (absolutely needs high population density to function). Last time I heard of a develpoer trying to get a 100 unit developed, the Village of Schaumburg (fast growth in Chicago suburbs) wanted it surrounded by an 80 acre park. If the overall density isn&#039;t high enough, it doesn&#039;t ever pay to have frequent bus service and hourly or worse, bi-hourly, doesn&#039;t begin to &quot;cut it&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, GM wasn&#8217;t the only culprit. IIRC Firestone Tire had an even larger hand in it.<br />
That said, very few suburban cities are tolerating even discussion of Mass Transit-useable development (absolutely needs high population density to function). Last time I heard of a develpoer trying to get a 100 unit developed, the Village of Schaumburg (fast growth in Chicago suburbs) wanted it surrounded by an 80 acre park. If the overall density isn&#8217;t high enough, it doesn&#8217;t ever pay to have frequent bus service and hourly or worse, bi-hourly, doesn&#8217;t begin to &#8220;cut it&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a huge infrastructure / urban planning problem. The far looking people in the US are trying to rebuild cities so that cars are not needed so much.

In the last 20 years the SF Bay Area has been really regretting that GM back room lobbying led to them ripping out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_System&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;light rail&lt;/a&gt; system that was in place.

With China doubling its oil imports every three years, oil prices are only going up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a huge infrastructure / urban planning problem. The far looking people in the US are trying to rebuild cities so that cars are not needed so much.</p>
<p>In the last 20 years the SF Bay Area has been really regretting that GM back room lobbying led to them ripping out the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_System" rel="nofollow">light rail</a> system that was in place.</p>
<p>With China doubling its oil imports every three years, oil prices are only going up.</p>
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